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“There may be magic within the attempting and studying and attempting once more.. however any unprocessed PTSD will come again to hang-out you” Avni Patel Thompson on the Superpowers Of Second Time Founders


Generally you meet a founder throughout a startup pitch and also you simply know you’re going to be associates, no matter whether or not they take your cash or not. Avni Patel Thompson is a kind of folks. And I was proper! So when writing about Second Time Founders, Avni got here to the highest of my checklist. We’ve talked usually about this subject and a fast interview was the ideas under (and you will get superb essays on startup life from her free Substack publication).

I like being a second-time founder.

It’s like having your second child. You don’t sweat the small stuff as a result of you already know what the small stuff truly is. You’re feeling extra assured in your instincts and depend on your intestine greater than your hyperactive thoughts and what different hyperactive minds round you let you know.

You’ve got a common sense of the form of issues — the highs, the lows, the issues to be careful for, the issues to not stress about so desperately.

Being a second time founder is such a present in so some ways.

However it will also be a hazard. There’s a distinctive taste of paranoid confidence that’s bestowed upon repeat founders — extra assured in what’s potential and tips on how to pursue it, but in addition continuously conscious of all of the methods you may fuck it up.

Past that, startup years are arduous on a founder. The hours labored, the guts and soul consumed, the inconceivable selections, the painful folks calls. All buried deep down, in service of protecting the corporate alive.

All of this accumulates and until it’s being processed by some excessive energy remedy (which, let’s be sincere, for many of us, it isn’t), it’s simply pile on and piles up, a poisonous carbon compressed underneath the very best of pressures right into a lethal diamond that’s what shines when others take a look at us.

However we all know the reality. It’s harmful if not dealt with appropriately. As a substitute of the being the toughest substance that offers us superhuman energy, it may be the brittle kryptonite that crumbles with the unsuitable crack and results in our downfall.

In the event you’ve been a founder and also you’re contemplating getting again into the world right here’s what I’d say are the three largest superpowers you may depend on and the three areas of hazard to pay attention to.

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The ‘upside’

You belief your intestine greater than every other enter. This, I assume is THE most necessary factor, and my guess for if second time founders are extra profitable, the rationale why. That you simply even have a intestine to belief. Over the months and years of the primary firm, we’ve all constructed up a way of tips on how to issues and tips on how to do it in a approach that works for us. With Poppy, I would continuously be asking others how to consider hiring and giving fairness; about elevating cash; about product sprints and development. With Milo, I understand how to do it, and the way I can do it higher and quicker for me. Doesn’t make the doing of it any of any simpler per se, however not less than this time round I don’t have the burden of my newness weighing me down at every flip.

You can also make larger, bolder calls. As a result of you already know the lay of the start-up recreation higher, you can begin being bolder on what you’re constructing, particularly as a result of it’s seemingly you’re capable of increase extra capital to do it with. You’re additionally constructing with all of the arduous fought learnings you gained from sure, your final startup, but in addition all the opposite experiences in your life. You’re capable of join extra dots in additional distinctive methods as a result of you’ve got extra perception and intuition.

You are able to do extra, as a result of you may see extra.

That stated, this cuts each methods. Being a repeat founder carries the burden of figuring out when a factor isn’t working and figuring out that it’s important to make harsher calls, quicker. You may’t declare ignorance. So it’s important to make the equally larger, extra brutal workforce and product calls.

You may out persist even your former self. This one stands to be actually confirmed however, in my case, my first start-up was form of unintentional. I used to be curious greater than something and I discovered myself attempting to do proper by a product that simply took off. To begin Milo, I needed to make the specific name that I used to be going to do that once more. That I used to be keen to dedicate the subsequent decade of my life — of my ladies’ lives — to this. That made me select an issue and an area that I knew I might make my life’s work if I used to be fortunate sufficient to maintain it going. I began this one figuring out that it was a marathon and have been pacing myself as such. It’s nonetheless at a dash tempo however one which I understand how to keep up when and the way I have to.

I might let you know extra methods being a second time founder helps — established investor community, higher hiring pool, give attention to distribution vs. product — however ultimately, all that issues, I assume, is that it offers me the arrogance to do a factor that requires countless boatloads of it, powered by my intestine, which I belief above all. Even above my closest mentors and associates. That’s the final word superpower.

And the ‘draw back’

And if these are the issues you may depend on as tailwinds, right here’s what I assume are the headwinds:

Any unprocessed PTSD will come again to hang-out you. There’s a joke amongst founders that it doesn’t matter what area you’re employed in on the primary, you vow to by no means try this once more. Market folks leaping to saas software program, saas folks leaping to {hardware}, {hardware} folks leaping to anything. It’s a kind of “in the event you don’t chuckle, you’ll cry” type of jokes.

As a result of what every of us works on is very complicated and we be taught the arduous approach all of the brick partitions that exist in a class (by working head first into them, realizing it’s not one that may be bust by, and main our battered our bodies and groups round it). For Poppy, it was the relentlessness of constructing a market — there was actually by no means relaxation. Repair one aspect, break the opposite and on and on you go, perpetually. That’s the sport. Add on the labor regulation and belief and security elements of a childcare market and I vowed to myself to take a break from folks and marketplaces and to enter “simply” software program.

That PTSD put blinders on me on how a real resolution would work for what I’m constructing with Milo till I used to be keen to rethink each folks and a market. Then, guess what? An unlock based mostly on my potential to construct with each.

The lesson? Relaxation. After which course of that PTSD so you may construct this subsequent start-up with none of the unhealthy baggage.

Your figuring out an excessive amount of can keep your hand and make you timid. There may be energy within the sheer naivety of a first-time founder. I used to be too clueless to know higher, and in numerous methods, it helped me preserve going even within the face of silly odds. This time round, I’d get into my head earlier than I might ever get occurring a factor. The concern would roar louder, fuelled by the reminiscence and ache and skepticism held by my physique. I’d hypothesize all of the methods this factor wouldn’t work, or couldn’t generate profits or would simply lead to weeks wasted. Satirically, I wasted weeks as a result of my “figuring out an excessive amount of” bought in my very own approach.

In time, I needed to be taught to simply give attention to my finest testable speculation. To make use of all my data to craft that, after which to simply get going. Figuring out higher is usually a good factor — however let it energy your intestine, not cloud your thoughts.

It could possibly preserve you within the recreation too lengthy. It nearly doesn’t matter how your first startup went. The second go at it comes with larger stakes. In the event you knocked it out of the park, you’re being chased by the ghosts of a “one-hit-wonder”. In the event you failed and both ended up as an “acquihire” or a shut-down like Poppy, you’re been chased by the ghosts of “don’t even have what it takes”. Both approach, this level of ego and satisfaction performs along with your thoughts and the way lengthy you persist on a factor. I’ve discovered myself going longer on a product or a course as a result of “it needed to work” and “I couldn’t fail” greater than what truly served the corporate. I’ve needed to truthfully simply recover from this. To know that my price as a founder isn’t wrapped up within the final result of even this go at it, however reasonably how I am going about constructing it. That even when this have been to finish once more not how I needed, that I’d nonetheless have a subsequent chapter. That is actually more durable to do in apply than idea, particularly when you’ve got a household and payments to pay and a really actual “alternative price”. And but. Satirically, this will make you make the type of unhealthy calls that can sink you anyway. Keep within the recreation so long as it serves the aim and serves you.


I love being a second time founder. However as you may see, the advantages come at a value, as most issues of worth do.

Above all: I get up with gratitude. That I’m one of many fortunate few that will get to do that job. That will get to stand up and take a look at. Once more and many times. And if the fee is that I should be as self-aware as I can, of my personal limitations and fallibility, I’m okay with that.

As a result of breakthrough lies within the attempting many times. Within the 10,000 ways in which don’t work till you discover the one which does.

So my hope is for the world to have numerous second and third and fourth time founders, irrespective of the person outcome.

There may be magic within the attempting and studying and attempting once more.

And I wouldn’t change that superpower, irrespective of all of the kryptonite.

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